Right, musings.

"Wheelerguy" (wheelerguy) 07/23/2016 at 09:30 • Filed to: Musings, Bangin' Gears, Thermal Test

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1. Simply imagine that Viper with P Zero Trofeo-R tires. Three seconds on tires alone is stretching it, admittedly, but it’s not impossible.

2. The 7th, 8th and 9th overall are tiermates, and the laps are righteous. That said, the Huayra BC will eat that Vader and will breathe down the ACR’s neck, if not blitz past it.

3. The 458 Speciale was released in 2013. Within three years, the two tiers (super-sport and super-exotic) have made a total of three seconds off the 458's lap. This is remarkable, considering how big a yardstick that 458 was back in ‘13/’14.

4. That the 675LT wouldn’t be able to shake off a 991 GT3RS is more of a testament to how far Porsche can push the N/A platform. And being just 0.8s off the ACR says a lot. The new GT2RS should be able to make the ground, if not surpass it.

5. The AMG-GT R (God I hate how that name goes, just call it an SLC AMG R, please), New Ford GT, Huracan Superleggera and F12tdf will have some big hurdles to clear in their respective tiers.

Wobbles the Mind > Wheelerguy 07/23/2016 at 10:10

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I feel like in the case of the ACR specifically, those Kumho’s really are as good as it gets. Due to the sizes (mostly the rear) and aero, anything with an even harder edge will give the vehicle too much grip which creates unintended understeering, lethargic turn in, and also mutes feedback through the steering wheel, not sure about acceleration though. Either way, I think any Viper without ACR levels of aero would see benefits, but you’re honestly at the limit of what that vehicle can do in its current iteration.

Huayra BC is spectacular and will knock out an SV and F12tdf, but on that track it still would struggle against the GT3 RS (just like the SV and tdf).

Completely agree with you on how much things have improved. What’s scary is the fact that the Hypers aren’t into the One:1 space like the Koenigsegg, AM-RB 001, and all the next gen cars that they (Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren) likely already have built.

GT2RS is exciting!

I think the AMG will be very close to the GT3 RS, the Huracan will end up being faster than the SV and very close to the 675LT, the F12tdf seems like it will be closer to the Veyron, and I honestly think the Ford GT will run just under the 675LT and GT3 RS right out of the gate on that track.

Sam > Wobbles the Mind 07/23/2016 at 10:35

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Yeah, the only way I can see the ACR dropping time would be if it was stripped out and made into a literal race car. But that misses the point of the “race car for the road” ethos entirely.

Wheelerguy > Wobbles the Mind 07/23/2016 at 11:09

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I’ll just get my disgust at the Merc’s name out of the way now: the entire thing is far too generic to convey anything special. SLC was better, but that’s the SLK now. SCS? SRS? Call it the 630SL?

1. I concur. Much as I want to put god-tier rubber on that Viper, it’ll take a new generation to do so. Considering it’s the FCA we’re talking about here...

2. Speaking of limits... I reckon we can safely call the New Ford GT a homologation special. Which kinda scares me, because what if it’s behind by 1.7 seconds?

3. That said, I wouldn’t really discount the BC. It took the Aventador a few candy to evolve and it was just 0.21s faster than a regular Huayra; it’s still 0.5s behind a Veyron. I think Dallara’s magic and extra juice can do the trick (unless Alejandro befriends a Centenario owner and see what’s what).

4. This also places Lamborghini in an awkward situation of their junior car upstaging the Vader.

5. The F12tdf is in a tricky spot, no? I think it has enough to match the 991 GT3RS, but only just match it.

6. Below the One:1 is the Agera RS, the direct succesor to the CCGT. Salomondrin should find the bloke who owns one and ask him if the car can be benchmarked.